Thanks to Todd from TCE Performance and all of you who came out tonight for the 6th Motoring Fun MINI Club ìvirtualî meet. We covered quite a bit on brake upgrades for your MINI. If you missed it – where were you? No worries – we have the transcript available so you can catch up. You may have another opportunity to chat with Todd because he has agreed to come back for another chat in the future to answer even more questions we may have.

As promised, here is the transcript from tonightís chatÖ Enjoy and hope to see you in the chat room soon!

You can download a PDF version HERE or view it below:

mct[04/24/07 9:02 PM ]: As always, welcome and thanks to all of you for coming out to participate in yet another one of our monthly ìvirtualî meets here at MotoringFun.com

mct[04/24/07 9:03 PM ]: For those who donít know – I am Pedro and I will be your chat room moderator tonight.

mct[04/24/07 9:03 PM ]: To get an idea where everyone is from tonight, while we give people a few moments to come in and find their seats letís have everyone post the city and/or State (or country) they are in.

mct[04/24/07 9:03 PM ]: palm beach FL here

gnatster[04/24/07 9:04 PM ]: The country known as Texas here, Dallas area

alpinamike[04/24/07 9:04 PM ]: E.P., OHIO

xxTHIR13ENxx[04/24/07 9:04 PM ]: Leo chatting from Weston, FL here.

xxTHIR13ENxx[04/24/07 9:04 PM ]: Represent.

xxTHIR13ENxx[04/24/07 9:04 PM ]: =)

speedy1[04/24/07 9:04 PM ]: Jacksonville FL

cabmeister[04/24/07 9:04 PM ]: Lehigh Acres ( Fort Myers) Florida ,U.S.A. Representing the colonial contingent

James[04/24/07 9:05 PM ]: Orlando.

mct[04/24/07 9:05 PM ]: welcome mat

mct[04/24/07 9:05 PM ]: anyone else? where you from?

Will[04/24/07 9:06 PM ]: The RVA, thatís Richmond, Virginia

mathewweiss[04/24/07 9:06 PM ]: mat, southern california

mct[04/24/07 9:06 PM ]: nice!

mct[04/24/07 9:06 PM ]: Ok – now letís get the traditional housekeeping out of the way

mct[04/24/07 9:06 PM ]: Big thanks to everyone who took part in last monthís chat event – AMVIV Live!

mct[04/24/07 9:06 PM ]: In case you missed it, you can download the shows at the following link:

alpinamike[04/24/07 9:06 PM ]: Yes!!

mct[04/24/07 9:06 PM ]: http://www.motoringfun.com/index.php?s=amviv+live

mct[04/24/07 9:06 PM ]: (bookmark for later)

mct[04/24/07 9:06 PM ]: It was our first attempt at an audio show, so keep that in mind while listening! I personally think they came out pretty darn good for our first try.

James[04/24/07 9:07 PM ]: I thought so too.

mct[04/24/07 9:07 PM ]: A reminder that the chat room is open 24/7. Lately we have been getting some new female MINIacs joining in on the chat, adding some lively discussion (and keeping the guys interested ).

cabmeister[04/24/07 9:07 PM ]: hear , hear

alpinamike[04/24/07 9:07 PM ]: I thought it ROCKED!

speedy1[04/24/07 9:07 PM ]:

mct[04/24/07 9:07 PM ]: As always, big thanks to our room moderators (MNEEME, murmini, cabmeister, montyformula1, alpinamike and Deviant for helping me keep an eye on things.

mct[04/24/07 9:08 PM ]: Like last time, we want to try to keep cross chat to a minimum, so please post your questions over in the comments section of this link:

mct[04/24/07 9:08 PM ]: http://www.motoringfun.com/…/

mct[04/24/07 9:08 PM ]: The questions that you post will put you into the question/answer queue for tonight and I will give the person who asked the question the floor to ask any follow-ups.

mct[04/24/07 9:08 PM ]: OkÖ letís get started!

mct[04/24/07 9:08 PM ]: It is my pleasure to introduce Todd from TCE Performance

mct[04/24/07 9:08 PM ]: Welcome to MotoringFun.com Todd!

ToddTCE[04/24/07 9:09 PM ]: Iím following along, greetings

mct[04/24/07 9:09 PM ]:

mct[04/24/07 9:09 PM ]: First off – can you let the folks know what TCE Performance does and how you got your start?

ToddTCE[04/24/07 9:09 PM ]: TCE was a race prep business for a long time and has transformed more the last 5-7 years into the aftermarket big brake biz.

mct[04/24/07 9:10 PM ]: Great! Next we have a question from alpinamike:

mct[04/24/07 9:10 PM ]: Hey Todd, What is the best set up for everyday driving, cross drilled or sloted rotors, and what are good for the track? Both is better, slot and drilled?

ToddTCE[04/24/07 9:11 PM ]: Street; run what you like. Track; avoid drilled or plan to replace them upon cracking

mct[04/24/07 9:11 PM ]: mike – any follow-ups?

alpinamike[04/24/07 9:12 PM ]: So just the slotted,,,huh

ToddTCE[04/24/07 9:12 PM ]: Personally I find BOTH to be redundant.

ToddTCE[04/24/07 9:12 PM ]: For track itís the safest

mct[04/24/07 9:12 PM ]: mike also asks – One more question Todd, do you like the Floating brakes that BMW supplies on the M cars, and will maybe be in MINIís in the future?

mct[04/24/07 9:13 PM ]: ìJust saw the New M5 Floating brakes with cross drilled fronts and back, the rotor is seperated from the hat, very cool.î

ToddTCE[04/24/07 9:13 PM ]: Not familiar with them

alpinamike[04/24/07 9:14 PM ]: they are a two piece rotor type

ToddTCE[04/24/07 9:14 PM ]: Cool parts Iím sure but a vehicle with such parts is just not a market for us in the aftermarket biz

mct[04/24/07 9:14 PM ]: next we have will with an important question ìHey Todd, did you sell my 15″ brake kit?î

mct[04/24/07 9:14 PM ]: LOL

alpinamike[04/24/07 9:15 PM ]: hehe

Will[04/24/07 9:15 PM ]:

ToddTCE[04/24/07 9:15 PM ]: 15 what

Will[04/24/07 9:15 PM ]: The super sweet 15î wheel kit you made

ToddTCE[04/24/07 9:16 PM ]: Oh, the custom 1.00 wide 11.8 kit….nope still has your name on it

Will[04/24/07 9:16 PM ]: Whoohoo!

Will[04/24/07 9:16 PM ]: ok, back to your regularly scheduled program. haha

mct[04/24/07 9:16 PM ]: ok – next we have cabmeister with a question

mct[04/24/07 9:16 PM ]: LOL

ToddTCE[04/24/07 9:16 PM ]: talk to Hollinshead he has been running it for some time

mct[04/24/07 9:16 PM ]: I am looking to up grade my present Braking system to a BBK front and rear , But of course cost is a factor so will only be taking it a step at a time . How would I be able to tell what The offset on my 17î Flik Fuel Wheels would be so as to determine the right fitting Kit. This wheel is no longer available at Edge Racing so I can`t find the offset . Could you advise thanks

ToddTCE[04/24/07 9:17 PM ]: Offset wonít really tell you caliper clearance. you will need to konw pocket space behind the spoke, see the TCE site/ toolbox/wheel fit page

mct[04/24/07 9:18 PM ]: http://www.tceperformanceproducts.com/wheel_fit.html

cabmeister[04/24/07 9:18 PM ]: oh cool theres a page to check that clearance out ?

ToddTCE[04/24/07 9:18 PM ]: http://www.tceperformanceproducts.com/wheel_fit.html

mct[04/24/07 9:18 PM ]: see that link cab…

ToddTCE[04/24/07 9:19 PM ]: think of it as a poor mans template

mct[04/24/07 9:19 PM ]: does todd know us or what??

mct[04/24/07 9:19 PM ]: poor manís anything is right up our alley!

mct[04/24/07 9:19 PM ]: LOL

ToddTCE[04/24/07 9:19 PM ]: just about you

mct[04/24/07 9:19 PM ]:

alpinamike[04/24/07 9:19 PM ]: cheapskates also

mct[04/24/07 9:19 PM ]: cab – any follow-ups?

cabmeister[04/24/07 9:19 PM ]: cool thanks bookmark all ready lol

cabmeister[04/24/07 9:20 PM ]: thanks Todd that is all

ToddTCE[04/24/07 9:20 PM ]: $869 for cheepskates

mct[04/24/07 9:20 PM ]: thanks cab

ToddTCE[04/24/07 9:20 PM ]: Your welcome

mct[04/24/07 9:20 PM ]: LOL

alpinamike[04/24/07 9:20 PM ]: hehe

alpinamike[04/24/07 9:20 PM ]: thanks todd

mct[04/24/07 9:20 PM ]: next we have another question from the willmeister

ToddTCE[04/24/07 9:20 PM ]: AMVIV cash and carry….about $550

mct[04/24/07 9:20 PM ]: ìWhat different needs do you see with the new 07ís vs. the R53? Any plans for the Clubman?î

cabmeister[04/24/07 9:21 PM ]: both front and rear . No way

cabmeister[04/24/07 9:21 PM ]: oops sorry

ToddTCE[04/24/07 9:21 PM ]: First is fitting the 07. Have one customer who is planning to try to retro fit from any early car

ToddTCE[04/24/07 9:22 PM ]: Open to new projects but market demands are always a concern

mct[04/24/07 9:22 PM ]: will – follow-ups?

Will[04/24/07 9:23 PM ]: ummm…

xxTHIR13ENxx[04/24/07 9:23 PM ]: lol.

Will[04/24/07 9:23 PM ]: no

ToddTCE[04/24/07 9:23 PM ]: not too many ënewí cars I go after will, usually a couple years old before I begin

mct[04/24/07 9:23 PM ]: LOL

mct[04/24/07 9:24 PM ]: lgenf wants to know… what do you have that fits under stock wheels? (S lights – 17 in wheels)

ToddTCE[04/24/07 9:24 PM ]: S- lites are hopeless for

ToddTCE[04/24/07 9:24 PM ]: Big brakes

mct[04/24/07 9:24 PM ]: LOL

Will[04/24/07 9:24 PM ]: Iím sure many people want to know, Todd, but Iíll be the one to ask. We love our MINIís, but most of us have more than one car. So can we go through you, since we like you, to get brakes for other makes/models?

ToddTCE[04/24/07 9:25 PM ]: R90 wheels are the best from what I have seen for options

lgenf[04/24/07 9:25 PM ]: yeah I figured, but thought there maybe something better then stock

ToddTCE[04/24/07 9:25 PM ]: I offer the full line of Wilwood product and do many other cars in house too.

ToddTCE[04/24/07 9:26 PM ]: S- lite man; not a lot to offer. Enhancement package from other vendors- pads, rotors, hoses

mct[04/24/07 9:26 PM ]: back to lgenfís question for a sec…

mct[04/24/07 9:26 PM ]: so todd – nothing you sell can fit slites?

ToddTCE[04/24/07 9:26 PM ]: even factory Ww kits wonít clear the 16î wheels without a small spacer

ToddTCE[04/24/07 9:27 PM ]: not without spacers

mct[04/24/07 9:27 PM ]: wow

mct[04/24/07 9:27 PM ]: good to know

mct[04/24/07 9:27 PM ]: lgenf – follow-ups?

ToddTCE[04/24/07 9:27 PM ]: see that wheel fit link and measure the s lite

lgenf[04/24/07 9:27 PM ]: so with a spacer there is a chance (spacer is cheaper then aftermarket wheels)

mct[04/24/07 9:27 PM ]: http://www.tceperformanceproducts.com/wheel_fit.html

ToddTCE[04/24/07 9:28 PM ]: good spacer, stud too

Will[04/24/07 9:28 PM ]: You called?

mct[04/24/07 9:28 PM ]: can u explain the spacer for those that may not understand that?

mct[04/24/07 9:28 PM ]: easy tiger

Will[04/24/07 9:28 PM ]: Oh, other type of stud….nevermind….

cabmeister[04/24/07 9:28 PM ]:

ToddTCE[04/24/07 9:28 PM ]: me? wheel spacer-moves wheel out for caliper clearance. Adds other ëissuesí to other things

mct[04/24/07 9:28 PM ]: yeah yeah

mct[04/24/07 9:29 PM ]: so is the spacer used in conjunction with the centering rings?

mct[04/24/07 9:29 PM ]: or do they replace the centering rings of aftermarket wheels?

mct[04/24/07 9:29 PM ]: (or in the case of s-lites – is it like a centerng ring?)

ToddTCE[04/24/07 9:29 PM ]: can be part of it if planned ring is needed

lgenf[04/24/07 9:29 PM ]: so by using the spacer, you will get the clearance needed, but streangth becomes an issue as you are not on the HUB ring anymore

mct[04/24/07 9:31 PM ]: any other follow-ups? before we move to next question?

xxTHIR13ENxx[04/24/07 9:31 PM ]: Iím looking into getting spacers… (just wanted to say that).

xxTHIR13ENxx[04/24/07 9:31 PM ]: =)

lgenf[04/24/07 9:31 PM ]: nope

gnatster[04/24/07 9:31 PM ]: If I may interject, use of a 3-5mm spacer can be done but is not optimal and if you track the car is a bad idea. Much larger then that and you are asking for potential trouble

mct[04/24/07 9:31 PM ]: k

xxTHIR13ENxx[04/24/07 9:32 PM ]: True.

mct[04/24/07 9:32 PM ]: thanks gnat !

gnatster[04/24/07 9:32 PM ]: If using a space you should look into getting studs or longer lug bolts

ToddTCE[04/24/07 9:32 PM ]: you guys can debate spacers pros and cons, letís get back to brakes

mct[04/24/07 9:32 PM ]: leo has the next question – Is there a way to upgrade to a bigger rotor without changing the calipers/pads? For instance, would there be any (huge) problems with fitting ëfront-sized rotorsí in the rears? (Poor example, but simplest I can think of).î

ToddTCE[04/24/07 9:33 PM ]: commonly called plus size kits they use caliper relocation brackets as I have done on the rear. you need to do up at least an inch or so to make them work

mct[04/24/07 9:34 PM ]: leo – any follow-up?

xxTHIR13ENxx[04/24/07 9:34 PM ]: Thank you Todd; just a follow-up, do you guys sell this ìrelocation bracketsî?

ToddTCE[04/24/07 9:34 PM ]: rear rotors in the back might work with a lot of effort but the weight is bad and youíd want a very large front rotor for proper bias issues

ToddTCE[04/24/07 9:34 PM ]: only the rear kit

xxTHIR13ENxx[04/24/07 9:35 PM ]: Cool, thanks.

xxTHIR13ENxx[04/24/07 9:35 PM ]: Thank you Todd.

mct[04/24/07 9:35 PM ]: thanks – next we have mat

ToddTCE[04/24/07 9:35 PM ]: no problem, sorry no relocation kit

mct[04/24/07 9:35 PM ]: What are the benefits of a BBK for the street? Do BBKís reduce the distance it takes to stop or just disperse heat better?

mct[04/24/07 9:35 PM ]: For a street driver, with a rare track event, which wilwood kit would you recommend and why? Thanks.

ToddTCE[04/24/07 9:36 PM ]: one at a time. for street you get quicker reaction time from the fixed caliper and improved pedal feel and feedback.

ToddTCE[04/24/07 9:37 PM ]: Distance is more related to tire adhesion than just stopping the rotor. Saw first hand on a WRX yesterday with a kit an crappy tires. quick lock up

ToddTCE[04/24/07 9:37 PM ]: For street occasional track the Plus 2 kit with the larger 12.2 rotor and booted caliper is the best ìall aroundî for the money

mct[04/24/07 9:38 PM ]: mat – follow-ups?

ToddTCE[04/24/07 9:38 PM ]: got 17s? want bigger? then you can run the 13s with proper pad for each use

mathewweiss[04/24/07 9:38 PM ]: Thanks. Do you see the price going up for these kits in the next 2-3 or more years?

ToddTCE[04/24/07 9:39 PM ]: I bet on it. Alum is way high right now. I would expect all brake kits to go up as they did when I said so six months ago

mathewweiss[04/24/07 9:39 PM ]: ok thanks

mct[04/24/07 9:39 PM ]: thanks mat

mct[04/24/07 9:40 PM ]: real quick todd –

mct[04/24/07 9:40 PM ]: do you still have a shortage of pads for those kits?

ToddTCE[04/24/07 9:40 PM ]: for those who donít understand: alum = electricity= fuel= money

mct[04/24/07 9:40 PM ]: i thought i remember you posting on NAM about a shortage?

ToddTCE[04/24/07 9:40 PM ]: I have one set of BP20s for the DP caliper right now.

ToddTCE[04/24/07 9:40 PM ]: Told early June

mct[04/24/07 9:41 PM ]: so 1 set left?

mct[04/24/07 9:41 PM ]: wow

ToddTCE[04/24/07 9:41 PM ]: I have them for the FSL, not the DP

mct[04/24/07 9:41 PM ]: ok

ToddTCE[04/24/07 9:41 PM ]: Sorry, ONE for the DP, no shortage for the FSL

mct[04/24/07 9:41 PM ]: next we have lgenf with another questions

mct[04/24/07 9:41 PM ]: for track weekends, but not a track dedicated car, what is best,

Will[04/24/07 9:41 PM ]: Todd, aluminum is made of magic, not electricity. Duh!

mct[04/24/07 9:42 PM ]: just a heavy pad compound and replace rotors as needed with Napa/OEM versions

mct[04/24/07 9:42 PM ]: or upgrade the system? How well do your rotors hold up compared with stock?

ToddTCE[04/24/07 9:42 PM ]: keeping it out of the wall.

mct[04/24/07 9:42 PM ]: LOL

Will[04/24/07 9:42 PM ]:

ToddTCE[04/24/07 9:42 PM ]: Seriously, the pad rotor option is ok but the feedback remains poor and boiling can still be an isssue

mct[04/24/07 9:44 PM ]: sounds like those s-lites are gonna get upgraded

ToddTCE[04/24/07 9:44 PM ]: I call it DUTY CYCLE. run a stock set up at 100% or a BBK at 80-90% all day long. Which do you want in your corner

Will[04/24/07 9:44 PM ]: s-heavies?

mct[04/24/07 9:44 PM ]: lgenf – any follow-up?

ToddTCE[04/24/07 9:44 PM ]: more brake, more mass, improved cooling, same results over and over and…..

ToddTCE[04/24/07 9:45 PM ]: Turbo plan: run a T2 at 20k rpm and hope it lasts or do a T4 and keep life in it

ToddTCE[04/24/07 9:46 PM ]: brakes are just the opposite of such things if you think about it

mct[04/24/07 9:46 PM ]: follow-ups? going once…

mct[04/24/07 9:47 PM ]: twice….

alpinamike[04/24/07 9:47 PM ]: sold

ToddTCE[04/24/07 9:47 PM ]: bbks offer you more and better pad choices, less weight, improved feedback, lower temps etc.

mct[04/24/07 9:47 PM ]: good points todd

mct[04/24/07 9:47 PM ]: now onto the next question

mct[04/24/07 9:47 PM ]: alpinamike asks ìWhat brake fluid do you prefer, ATE blue?î

ToddTCE[04/24/07 9:47 PM ]: my hair hides it well

ToddTCE[04/24/07 9:48 PM ]: I only sell Wilwood so I canít comment.

mct[04/24/07 9:48 PM ]: wilwood has their own brake fluid then?

ToddTCE[04/24/07 9:48 PM ]: ìif you donít boil what you use now, you donít need higher bp fluidî

Will[04/24/07 9:48 PM ]: Whatíre the boiling points of the wilwood fluid?

ToddTCE[04/24/07 9:48 PM ]: Yup. 570 and 600EXP

Will[04/24/07 9:49 PM ]: i guess 570 and 600 degrees….

ToddTCE[04/24/07 9:49 PM ]: 570 and some foolish 630 or whatever

mct[04/24/07 9:49 PM ]: how much is a bottle of the wilwood fluid?

alpinamike[04/24/07 9:49 PM ]: brake ducts would not hurt, via, fog lights

ToddTCE[04/24/07 9:49 PM ]: 570 is $6

mct[04/24/07 9:50 PM ]: oh wow

mct[04/24/07 9:50 PM ]: that is not bad at all

alpinamike[04/24/07 9:50 PM ]: willwood like Dot 5 plus

ToddTCE[04/24/07 9:50 PM ]: http://www.wilwood.com/Products/006-MasterCylinders/012-EXP/index.asp

ToddTCE[04/24/07 9:50 PM ]: 5.1

alpinamike[04/24/07 9:50 PM ]: hehe

mct[04/24/07 9:50 PM ]: so what is the difference between DOT 4 and DOT 5 ?

Will[04/24/07 9:50 PM ]: available in dolby surround sound, too

ToddTCE[04/24/07 9:50 PM ]: EXP $? if you have to ask….

mct[04/24/07 9:51 PM ]: LOL

alpinamike[04/24/07 9:51 PM ]: do you do the brake duct mod?

ToddTCE[04/24/07 9:51 PM ]: higher bp ratings

ToddTCE[04/24/07 9:51 PM ]: Sorry 5.0 is silicone based, 5.1 glycol

mct[04/24/07 9:52 PM ]: gotcha – and the EXP per bottle?

ToddTCE[04/24/07 9:52 PM ]: ducts are nice if you need them. donít run them on hard core pads or you may be too cool and eat rotors

mct[04/24/07 9:52 PM ]: price?

alpinamike[04/24/07 9:52 PM ]: thanks todd

ToddTCE[04/24/07 9:52 PM ]: iím guessing like $18-20

Will[04/24/07 9:52 PM ]: good point, todd. most people donít think about operating temperature when dealing with pads/rotors

mct[04/24/07 9:52 PM ]: that is not bad at all

cabmeister[04/24/07 9:52 PM ]: Do the higher rated Fluid affect standard car componants like say the Clutch slave seals ??

mct[04/24/07 9:53 PM ]: ATE is like $18 a bottle…

ToddTCE[04/24/07 9:53 PM ]: donít stock it, seldom sell it

gnatster[04/24/07 9:53 PM ]: What would be considered a hard core pad BP-10 or BP -20?

mct[04/24/07 9:53 PM ]: castrol fluid can run $76 a bottle

ToddTCE[04/24/07 9:53 PM ]: shouldnít if they are glycol based but not 100% sure

alpinamike[04/24/07 9:53 PM ]: ATE blue is expensive

ToddTCE[04/24/07 9:53 PM ]: Poly A

cabmeister[04/24/07 9:54 PM ]: but a wilwood kit would be fine for a DOT4 ?

cabmeister[04/24/07 9:54 PM ]: *with* i should say

ToddTCE[04/24/07 9:54 PM ]: $20.25 list 500ml

ToddTCE[04/24/07 9:55 PM ]: DOT 3 or 4 sure. donít forget you took the problem out of the system with the removal of the old brake system to begin with.

mct[04/24/07 9:55 PM ]: LOL

ToddTCE[04/24/07 9:55 PM ]: DUTY CYCLE remember? improve the efficiency and you wonít work it so hard

mct[04/24/07 9:55 PM ]: if there are any other questions

mct[04/24/07 9:56 PM ]: we have a few more minutes remaining

ToddTCE[04/24/07 9:56 PM ]: just because someone sells racing fluid doesnít mean you need it in a racing caliper

alpinamike[04/24/07 9:56 PM ]: How often do you change your fluid

alpinamike[04/24/07 9:56 PM ]: ?

cabmeister[04/24/07 9:56 PM ]: point taken thanks

alpinamike[04/24/07 9:56 PM ]: every 2 years

mct[04/24/07 9:56 PM ]: good question mike

alpinamike[04/24/07 9:57 PM ]: dot 4

ToddTCE[04/24/07 9:57 PM ]: for track use guys Iíd suggeest you bleed/flush per weekend. for street guys Iíd say once a year would be more tham most do

Will[04/24/07 9:58 PM ]: aw crud…

cabmeister[04/24/07 9:58 PM ]: what is your take on 1 man bleeders?

ToddTCE[04/24/07 9:58 PM ]: higher bp fluid degrades WAY faster, what starter out at 600 dry might be lower with 1% water then some cheap off the shelf stuff in a week

ToddTCE[04/24/07 9:58 PM ]: Iím not for them. I do most of my work solo and manage just fin. Gravity is a great thing

Will[04/24/07 9:59 PM ]: gravity sucks

mct[04/24/07 9:59 PM ]: todd – do you have any dealers/installers in the country?

mct[04/24/07 9:59 PM ]: for those not local to you?

ToddTCE[04/24/07 10:00 PM ]: I have a list on the installers page but itís rather old and could be updated. Most sales are end user from my experience

alpinamike[04/24/07 10:00 PM ]: Will just flew off the planet!

mct[04/24/07 10:00 PM ]: gotcha

mct[04/24/07 10:00 PM ]: I just want to say thank you to Todd for coming out tonight to talk brakes!

mct[04/24/07 10:00 PM ]: Make sure you check him out at http://www.tceperformanceproducts.com/

ToddTCE[04/24/07 10:01 PM ]: no prob, painless

mct[04/24/07 10:01 PM ]: big thanks to all for coming out tonight

cabmeister[04/24/07 10:01 PM ]: thanks Todd I was informed

alpinamike[04/24/07 10:01 PM ]: Yep, thanks for the brake info Todd

gnatster[04/24/07 10:01 PM ]: Thanks Todd

montyformula1[04/24/07 10:01 PM ]: thanks Todd

Will[04/24/07 10:01 PM ]: Todd, youíre the man!

ToddTCE[04/24/07 10:01 PM ]: didnít get too technical here, we should do it again one day

mct[04/24/07 10:01 PM ]: feel free to come back anytime todd to chat

James[04/24/07 10:01 PM ]: Thanks, I learned a lot.

alpinamike[04/24/07 10:01 PM ]: yep

mct[04/24/07 10:01 PM ]: we can have a part 2 more in-depth techie chat !!

mct[04/24/07 10:01 PM ]: LOL

ToddTCE[04/24/07 10:02 PM ]: play on the brake bias page and come back with some hard core questions!

mct[04/24/07 10:02 PM ]: great todd